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know, ken melman who richard and i both know. our friend -- i can't remember -- >> megan mccain. >> i'm so sorry. megan mccain who's out there pushing pro marriage equality positions. as soon as the republican party meets up with the melmans and mccains in their ranks, then they will join the democratic party in terms of being on the right side of history. >> you know, this point that jonathan raises is very important. because, you know, because of the way this case arises, the republicans have their name on this brief. and when -- when the case is argued, the lawyer is going to be the lawyer retained by the house republicans. and, you know, in order to argue this case against same-sex marriage, you have to say a lot of things that sound like you're living in the 1950s. i think that's what the election was about. and that's right where republicans don't want to be. >> jonathan, as you bring up megan mccain and also ken melman, i have an idea. grover norquist, that anti-tax pledge guru, his relevance is probably going to go away if taxes go up. he might want to start a marriage equalit
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